The Guild Wars

LordDredd · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: The Guild Wars

Since I've returned, I have spoken to a lot of people, and made several new friendships as well as renewed some old ones. In its current manifestation, Rhydin has a lot of potential, but is still missing something.

So after hours of debate and discussion with friends old and new, I have come to a conclusion. Its time for another war....

In the past, guilds were a great tool for generating and driving storylines. They gave their members a sense of purpose, and comeraderie that they didn't have when they were solo. In some cases the confrontations between good and evil guilds reached epic proportions.

So, with this post, I am reactivating my old guild, the New World Order. I know of at least one light guild from the past which should also soon be ractivating.

The idea is to do most of our RP sessions in the chat rooms and on the forums, while fighting our battles in the back alley where we can use the dice generator. (Unless we can get one installed in the arena.) The one difficulty we see is the lack of private rooms, but we are considering other options for them such as yahoo messenger's chat rooms or IRC.

This is not something that will get off and running overnight, so we welcome ideas and input from others who may be interested in this project.

Your Humble Servant,
Tiberius Dredd
Leader of the New World Order

Myllyanna · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject:

Alysia Skye · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject:

I’m definitely interested.

I’m not sure the present numbers here will support more than two or three small-ish guilds, but these things have a way of taking off.

Brian Ravenlock · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject:

I am in agreement, I believe this can pan out nicely, and would love to see where this goes.
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AlexRavenlock · Ancient Wyrm Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 734 Location: ...

You know, I never took great part in guilds. I think they've done their part extremely well though, and overall it lead to opening a many door for interaction. Something I believe this site has been slacking on in the recent months.

While I don't really have any ideas considering the "I never took great part in guilds" part, and that I've grown up doing Turn-Base Respect battling, I'm going to leap on board and offer any help that may be required. These kind of things can indeed take off to great lengths, and I'm sure there are various many that wouldn't mind seeing such a blast from the past like "Guild Wars" take off.

Or so I'm willing to hope.

Zonker · Young Wyrm Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 67

I am not sure how important you feel the nostalgia element should be so this suggestion may be off-base, but perhaps this time we could find a better label than guilds? I have always been bothered by that word as applied in this manner. I think of a guild as an association or fraternity of craftsmen.

...or is this mostly a mediaeval-centric view irrelevant to mixed-genre?

Myllyanna · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject:

Alysia Skye · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject:

Zonker, you’re right. I think the majority of “guild” organizations in Rhydin were actually more like private armies, so guild isn’t really the best term. However, it’s been used to describe similar associations in so many MMORPGs that by this point, I’m not sure if it’s necessary to change it.

What would you suggest in lieu of "guild"?

Brian Ravenlock · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject:

Personally, I think guilds applies very well, simply for the nostalgia of the term in reference to the AOL past.

Guilds in many games and other venues has referred to clubs, privatized armies, schools of craft and learning and more so. The term 'Houses' would apply as well, and in some older games 'Militia'. I can understand Z's PoV (Point of View, yes I know it was longer to write this, but that's me), but as far as bringing back what was to some extent, and using things of the past, I really can't see name. But that's not to hinder anyone from suggestions, as to me the premise overides all else, and the OP has a nice idea.

While newer Guilds may possibly not be formed by those in present Rhy'din, that would not stop older one's from re-surfacing, and factions standing, and uniting against them as well. So the term Guild Wars, may not be the most astute description of what may be going on in the here and now, but add the past factors and older evils and such rising and what not, it could be a nice spark to some long overdue old school action.

So let's get us a name, and kick this pig!
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Lydia Loran · Great Wyrm Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 1762

LordDredd · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:19 am Post subject:

Its great to see such an interest in this. Yes, the term guild is generic and broad, but it is only limited to your imagination. As mentioned already, most "guilds" were in reality patterned after noble houses or small armies.

I agree that in the beginning there will probably only be a handful of guilds, but as more people find the site, I see that changing. Its something we have to build again from the ground up.

I will also concede in advance (because I am sure someone will bring it up: Very Happy

that the guild system wasn't perfect. But I've had more positive interaction with the guild system than negative.

LordDredd · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:34 am Post subject:

[quote="Myllyanna"]

LordDredd · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:40 am Post subject:

LordDredd · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:58 am Post subject:

First, thank you all for your interest and desire to help get things going. Right now we need to work on bringing more people on board, and also figuring out the details of how things will work. Once we have the basics in place, we can then start to fine tune them into a better system.

I will give a basic breakdown for those of you who were not around or never got into guild life.

Starting a guild, you need to think of the following;

Theme: What is the guild about?
Name: New World Order, The Brotherhood of the Rose, etc.
Acronym: NWO, BoR, etc
Alighment: Is the guild Light (good), Dark (evil), or Neutral
Combatant Status: Usually guilds were combatant or healer, but later on as we developed rules for assassination, assassin guilds emmerged.

Once we have a handful of guilds formed or revived, we should then form a new council to work towards a common system. Some of the former councils of Rhydin were the RWC, UCoRP, and FoRG. Personally, I feel that maybe in tribute to the old days, we should revive the old RWC since it was the first, and longest lasting of the councils.

LordDredd · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: Combat System

I personally am an avid supporter of the dice-based combat system. The downside is that the only place here where that is available is in the back alley. Initially, that won't be a problem as there will only be a handful of guilds to start and we can probably get away with running two, maybe three separate combats there. We could also adopt this turn-based dueling style that is used here in the Arena as a secondary form of combat. Perhaps allow combatants to choose which style they wish to engage in.

In the dice system, the guilds get XX points to start (usually a base number, plus a number multiplied by the number of initial members). These points are then distributed to their members to award them ranks. As guilds wage war, more points are given and people can be rewarded with promotions. With promotion comes higher dice, etc etc. We could also devise a system of awarding war points for participation in storylines (based on the war) posted in the forums. This would also allow people who want to join a guild, but dont want to fight, to participate via their writing skills.

Again, there are several ways we can incorporate the different aspects of this version of Rhydin to suit the guild system. What are your thoughts?